News | September 25th, 2006

When you watch the video of Fox News interviewing former President Bill Clinton, think about the prescious time we *all* waste as we operate from our positions.  Then please post your comments on this topic:
Think about all the time we waste attacking and defending, the time we waste preparing to defend and promote our positions, etc. This is a much, much bigger issue than the topic in the video. How much time do you and I spend in this positionary game?  (And please, no posting of your position about whether Clinton did enough or not to get Bin Laden, as that has nothing to do with our evolution from the Positionary Mind of the Past to the Visionary Mind of the Future, which is one of our primary focuses here at VisionForce.com.)

5 comments

  1. Jayant Karandikar

    Sep 26th, 2006

    Ha, well Mike, that is a bigger ploblem. we really waste lot of time in defending our positions. I feel that somewhere deep in our minds we do see the fallacies of such positions and that is why we try to defend position once taken. This is a problem in house hold fights between husband and wife also ( My personal experience). In such situations, talking about stand is essential, but very difficult without training. we have to attack this problem of people not able to navigate their way to STAND from the treacherous road of POSITION.

  2. Barry Jacobson

    Sep 29th, 2006

    “positioners” also like policing intellectual borders ie. borders other than those of the state/country sort. This keeps us within a pseudo comfort zone defending ‘our’ property instead of integrating in areas of culture, art, science, and religion for example.

  3. David Losey

    Oct 4th, 2006

    “CLINTON” – -
    While Brilliant: Don’t be mislead but his rebuttals.
    He is a Conniver and a Master Manipulalator Who will Do or Say Anything to Protect Himself!
    His objectives are SELF and CONTROL of every situation.
    He is artful in his deception; and uses devious methods to gain unfair or insidious control over people to his advantage.
    His uses His Physical and Mental Prescence aided by his his Glib Tongue to try to control every situation or to Prove His Point.
    What is His Point or Position? Is He a Posionary or Visionary?
    With his Deceptive manner and all the Lies he has told publiclly;
    He deceived the American People, He repeatedly Lied, Under Oath; To Congress and Others. Who Knows?
    When asked direct questions, some confrontational, He is insulted and gets angry. Obviously, He was Out of His Element.
    He did not have the Power of President to Protect Him.
    He was just another Man like every other!
    He was One on One and couldn’t handle the situation.
    Regardless of what occurred;
    His huge Ego, His conditioned reflexes in Defense of Self wouldn’t allow him to answer truthfully. Thus His Outburst..
    That in itself proves his deceptive nature!
    Without the power of political position, his true self showed:
    He Is Self Rigthous, Lives by His Own Principles, Has Little Integrity, Totally Self-Serviing and Not A Man of HONOR!
    Historians may record differently; but HE IS WHAT HE IS!

  4. Tom Andrews

    Oct 5th, 2006

    Say what you want to about Bill Clinton-But know this-Our country is going striaght to the abyss,to which there is no stopping the Facists, who have after 6 years and 2 sham elections,have just about destroyed everything we TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS,hold so very dear!Bill Clinton was angry,and had a good damn right to be!He probuly knows more about what is going to happen than just about any of us!I am ashamed of our so called Republican government and apalled of our coweredly Democratic party,that just rolls over everytime,Bush goes boo!I think everyone of our Democratic Senators and Congressmen and women,should get on all of the media(FOX included),and not just yell back at those Basturds,But TAKE A SWING AT THEM TOO!!Make one of them feel the pain of what they are trying to do to the working poor and the destroyed middle class!It sickens me to think of all of the blood spilled through all of the wars to keep our freedoms,and our Democracy,our belief that we were the good guys,only to have a half-wit simplton and a monster puppet master destroy Americas name and run her soiled reputation in the mud,and turn her into the 4th reich!Shame on us all to let this happen!This could not have happenned in the 1970′s!Too many of the old warriors of major conflicks would have risen up and formed one great big wave of power from thier VFW halls and not just marched, but stormed the capital with the might of GOD almighty,and would haved kicked ass and taken names and destroyed the devil and the monster and would have gave the world a lesson about what America was made of!!We are but a poor legacy!We have let our future generations down,and thats if it is going to be any future at all worth living! GOD have mercy on us,BUT,take no mercy on the Decider and the Monster Puppet Master,and the fools who have enabled them ALL!!!!Democrates Believe in GOD too!!

  5. Audrey

    Oct 9th, 2006

    HA HA!!! Wow! What delicious comments! *MY* personal view is that the first two commenters really “heard” the question being asked, and then the second two unintentionally demonstrated Positionary thinking for all of us PERFECTLY! (And please note that I loved the passion and zeal with which they spoke! They obviously CARE!)

    To me, the whole concept of evolving into Visionary thinking involves leaving behind the need to be “right” or to “win” an argument. (Scary, huh?!) For example, rather than arguing that “Bill Clinton is a Bastard!” vs. “No, he’s not, you Stupid Jerk-Head!” (that’s strictly my fun-loving paraphrasing of the second two comments), what if we ask “What if?” What if neither Bill Clinton nor George W. Bush are bastards? (Oooh!) What if neither the Republicans nor Democrats are inherently evil, bad, dirty, and wrong? (Yikes!) What if we are actually looking at a whole bunch of people who genuinely WANT to improve themselves and/or the world, and just believe in vastly different ways of doing it? (It couldn’t be, could it?!) What if deep down, people actually DO want to get along, and just have NO flippin’ clue how to do it because all we EVER see is arguing and name-calling? (Whoa…) What if we’re conditioned into systems of living and consciousness that inherently DON’T WORK, and our name-calling and bitching at each other is the way we deal with our frustration? (*Gasp!*) It’s certainly the way I dealt with it for many miserable, frustrating years that kept me small and angry… I didn’t know there WAS another way!

    Vision Force, keep it up! Your work has vastly improved my life on EVERY level. Literally. You are TRULY on to something HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

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