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		<title>By: Stipe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at your history and I find that your nation was built upon the foundation of Judeo/Christian beliefs. 95% of those that signed the declaration of independence professed Jesus Christ  as their lord and saviour. All of these men were educated agreat colleges and universities with Christ as their underpinning foundation. If you read the writings of all your past great leaders they were visionaries because they were moved by their relatioship to Christ. This relationship resulted in their relising their purpose in life resulting in them becoming men of vision. Most of what you are educated about your past is only filtered removing hteir true motivations and rewritten witha godless humanist perspective. This makes it a lie what you are taught today. Man has always wanted to become GOD, but how can the uncreated ever become the created, this is an impossability. Today most people view christianity as a restriction on life, I suppose this is because they have experienced or seen hypocracy. But do you throw out the baby with the bathwater? True Christianity is an intimate relationship with the living God through his son Jesus Christ. In that intimacy of relationship you will come into a real and true freedom. I liken it to a man who falls inlove with a beautiful woman, he will do any thing for her at his own expense - it is from a position of love atrue freedom inexpressible. This is what your nation needs to get back to, its origional foundation which made it great.
I am an Aussie, I dont live in your country, I dont think your country is perfect neither is mine, but your nation came to great power and influence in this world through its origional strong foundation. MOst of your educators are working hard to eliminate this foundation and you will eventually see a collapse.
Your President is not a perfect man but he is a man of vision. He saw that they ways of past generations of leaders was not solving problems but actually generating them or projecting them into the future. He decided to confront the issues and be counted even at the expense of his poularity.  He would no longer follow a Chamberlain/Hitler approach any more.

You Americans have started believing the lie that all that is going on with terrorism etc is a direct result of your past actions. This is not true!  Brittain and france would therefore deserve more retibution for their past actions within the middle east than the USA. No! The situation today exists becaus educators within the nations producing terrorists are free to preach hatred. This propaganda of hatred has penetrated these nations to a critical mass. Therin lies the problem, how do we influence them to a new way of thinking without resorting to manipulation and brainwashing? 

 It will take the will of those nations leaders to confront the problem and creat a vision of goodwill and benevolence towards all men. The only effective way I kow that this can be done is through the goodnews of Jesus Christ. It has produced the results through the centuries. I have seen it transform violent selfish corrupt men and women into moral sacraficial and benevolent people.

Can we force this upon people? No1 Never! How can we do it? Your nation needs to go back to its roots and restablish its foundation. Your nation has had a chance through your current president, but he is only in power for another two years. It is the leaders of a nation that influence the heart of the nation but I fear time is running out. You have one of the greated president in the modern era who is willing to think outside of the box , take calculated risks anfd take action to try and better this world without compromise. The hedonism that has been rampant will probably overun your nation and it will lead to its down fall. Your only hope is that a good man will take over the batton in 88.
Religion is not always the evil, it is those that use religion to manipulate and distort the truth for their own will and purposes that is the evil. Same as those that manipulate your past history for their own will and purposes. 
People to day in general are rather shallow as they are only interested in themselves and whats in it for me! But is there no hope? Yes there is as long as you and I are alive and we are willing to sacrifice our lives for the good of others. As long as we are willing to become men and women of vision to make a difference. However a baseless vision will only produce empty results of limited standing.
Go to Ghandi and you will find out that he had a friendship with a christian minister in South Africa and he learned of Christ and his preaching of the beatitudes in Matthew chapters 5 to 7. Ghandi applied these principles and set his nation of India free from foreign occupation. Unfortunately he could not impart his ways to others to duplicate himself -the reason is that he used the priciples appart from their source
Get back to the foudations that established your great nation and your nation will become and remain great.
A few thoughts from downunder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at your history and I find that your nation was built upon the foundation of Judeo/Christian beliefs. 95% of those that signed the declaration of independence professed Jesus Christ  as their lord and saviour. All of these men were educated agreat colleges and universities with Christ as their underpinning foundation. If you read the writings of all your past great leaders they were visionaries because they were moved by their relatioship to Christ. This relationship resulted in their relising their purpose in life resulting in them becoming men of vision. Most of what you are educated about your past is only filtered removing hteir true motivations and rewritten witha godless humanist perspective. This makes it a lie what you are taught today. Man has always wanted to become GOD, but how can the uncreated ever become the created, this is an impossability. Today most people view christianity as a restriction on life, I suppose this is because they have experienced or seen hypocracy. But do you throw out the baby with the bathwater? True Christianity is an intimate relationship with the living God through his son Jesus Christ. In that intimacy of relationship you will come into a real and true freedom. I liken it to a man who falls inlove with a beautiful woman, he will do any thing for her at his own expense &#8211; it is from a position of love atrue freedom inexpressible. This is what your nation needs to get back to, its origional foundation which made it great.<br />
I am an Aussie, I dont live in your country, I dont think your country is perfect neither is mine, but your nation came to great power and influence in this world through its origional strong foundation. MOst of your educators are working hard to eliminate this foundation and you will eventually see a collapse.<br />
Your President is not a perfect man but he is a man of vision. He saw that they ways of past generations of leaders was not solving problems but actually generating them or projecting them into the future. He decided to confront the issues and be counted even at the expense of his poularity.  He would no longer follow a Chamberlain/Hitler approach any more.</p>
<p>You Americans have started believing the lie that all that is going on with terrorism etc is a direct result of your past actions. This is not true!  Brittain and france would therefore deserve more retibution for their past actions within the middle east than the USA. No! The situation today exists becaus educators within the nations producing terrorists are free to preach hatred. This propaganda of hatred has penetrated these nations to a critical mass. Therin lies the problem, how do we influence them to a new way of thinking without resorting to manipulation and brainwashing? </p>
<p> It will take the will of those nations leaders to confront the problem and creat a vision of goodwill and benevolence towards all men. The only effective way I kow that this can be done is through the goodnews of Jesus Christ. It has produced the results through the centuries. I have seen it transform violent selfish corrupt men and women into moral sacraficial and benevolent people.</p>
<p>Can we force this upon people? No1 Never! How can we do it? Your nation needs to go back to its roots and restablish its foundation. Your nation has had a chance through your current president, but he is only in power for another two years. It is the leaders of a nation that influence the heart of the nation but I fear time is running out. You have one of the greated president in the modern era who is willing to think outside of the box , take calculated risks anfd take action to try and better this world without compromise. The hedonism that has been rampant will probably overun your nation and it will lead to its down fall. Your only hope is that a good man will take over the batton in 88.<br />
Religion is not always the evil, it is those that use religion to manipulate and distort the truth for their own will and purposes that is the evil. Same as those that manipulate your past history for their own will and purposes.<br />
People to day in general are rather shallow as they are only interested in themselves and whats in it for me! But is there no hope? Yes there is as long as you and I are alive and we are willing to sacrifice our lives for the good of others. As long as we are willing to become men and women of vision to make a difference. However a baseless vision will only produce empty results of limited standing.<br />
Go to Ghandi and you will find out that he had a friendship with a christian minister in South Africa and he learned of Christ and his preaching of the beatitudes in Matthew chapters 5 to 7. Ghandi applied these principles and set his nation of India free from foreign occupation. Unfortunately he could not impart his ways to others to duplicate himself -the reason is that he used the priciples appart from their source<br />
Get back to the foudations that established your great nation and your nation will become and remain great.<br />
A few thoughts from downunder</p>
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		<title>By: Jawed</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Jawed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect everyone&#039;s opinion, but let me say this, A position is based on a vision. People take positions based on their beliefs or &quot;vision&quot;. That vision might be right or wrong (depending on who you ask) but at least they have a vision, unlike many others who just blindly move towards the future not anticipating what might happen next..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect everyone&#8217;s opinion, but let me say this, A position is based on a vision. People take positions based on their beliefs or &#8220;vision&#8221;. That vision might be right or wrong (depending on who you ask) but at least they have a vision, unlike many others who just blindly move towards the future not anticipating what might happen next..</p>
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		<title>By: David Losey</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>David Losey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While President Bush&#039;s Stand of &quot;Not Dealing with Terrorists&quot; may be well intended, The consequences of Ignoring the opportunity to sit down and discuss the differences, Their Ideology and Our&#039;s Is Not just Arrogant and Over Bearing, 
 IT IS STUPID! 
 Any one can start a Fight or even a Wa! 
 The measure of any person or Nation is One that will sit down and talk with those whom they disagree; they try to negotiate  a reasonable settlement to avoid a conflict.  
  While there are major differences in the Middle Eastern Cultures, their history, religious beliefs and life style, etc, and the Western World;    
  Our Political Advisors and Diplomats, have, for years, maintained such a Calavlier and Over-Bearing Attitude toward them, their beleifs and ideology it is no wonder they feel as they do.
 Over the years, Their general poplulation&#039;s Attitudes and Mind Sets have been Fanned by Many Radical. Most have told for since childhood, That Western People and Nations are their  Enemy. While not entirely, they have been deceived by many. 
 Their rational, without full knowledge of Western Cultures Is Why they feel as they do toward Our Country and Others.  
 The Big Question is: What has Western Civilization Done 
over the last century to learn about them, their culture, etc?
  For the most part, We as a Nation, have failed to recognize the basics needs of Humanity Understanding other Cultures.. 
  In many ways our country seems to convey and pratice, . . . On a Grand Scale,  The Parent-Child Syndrome.
 Do as I Say, Not as I do!  If you do as I say, I&#039;ll help you. . . .
 If you don&#039;t, . .  . I will punish you!  &quot;Compliance &amp; Control&quot;
 With that philosophy, it is no wonder we have so many International problems and Our Country is in Jeopardy.. 
  Our Pragmatism, our lack of Empathy, Understaning and Unwillingness to accept another&#039;s lifestyle or their rational for their actions: Are the Primary Reasons why  the Age Old reaction of  Cause &amp; Effect occurs!. 
  It is about &quot;CONTROL&quot; and &quot;RESPECT&quot;
  When Opression and Controsl are eimposed, combined with Ignorance, Intolerence, Greed, Ego, Arrogance, Lack of Humanity: Lack of Respect, Lack of Enpathy, Civility, Lack of Communication.     
 When communications break-down between potential adverseries and they Refuse to Sit Down and Neogotiate to Resolve Their Differnces; . . .:
 The recipiants of these actions Feel Threatened!
 Their defense against these Threats Is: REPRISAL!
 The Consequence: &quot;CHAOS&quot;
David Losey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While President Bush&#8217;s Stand of &#8220;Not Dealing with Terrorists&#8221; may be well intended, The consequences of Ignoring the opportunity to sit down and discuss the differences, Their Ideology and Our&#8217;s Is Not just Arrogant and Over Bearing,<br />
 IT IS STUPID!<br />
 Any one can start a Fight or even a Wa!<br />
 The measure of any person or Nation is One that will sit down and talk with those whom they disagree; they try to negotiate  a reasonable settlement to avoid a conflict.<br />
  While there are major differences in the Middle Eastern Cultures, their history, religious beliefs and life style, etc, and the Western World;<br />
  Our Political Advisors and Diplomats, have, for years, maintained such a Calavlier and Over-Bearing Attitude toward them, their beleifs and ideology it is no wonder they feel as they do.<br />
 Over the years, Their general poplulation&#8217;s Attitudes and Mind Sets have been Fanned by Many Radical. Most have told for since childhood, That Western People and Nations are their  Enemy. While not entirely, they have been deceived by many.<br />
 Their rational, without full knowledge of Western Cultures Is Why they feel as they do toward Our Country and Others.<br />
 The Big Question is: What has Western Civilization Done<br />
over the last century to learn about them, their culture, etc?<br />
  For the most part, We as a Nation, have failed to recognize the basics needs of Humanity Understanding other Cultures..<br />
  In many ways our country seems to convey and pratice, . . . On a Grand Scale,  The Parent-Child Syndrome.<br />
 Do as I Say, Not as I do!  If you do as I say, I&#8217;ll help you. . . .<br />
 If you don&#8217;t, . .  . I will punish you!  &#8220;Compliance &amp; Control&#8221;<br />
 With that philosophy, it is no wonder we have so many International problems and Our Country is in Jeopardy..<br />
  Our Pragmatism, our lack of Empathy, Understaning and Unwillingness to accept another&#8217;s lifestyle or their rational for their actions: Are the Primary Reasons why  the Age Old reaction of  Cause &amp; Effect occurs!.<br />
  It is about &#8220;CONTROL&#8221; and &#8220;RESPECT&#8221;<br />
  When Opression and Controsl are eimposed, combined with Ignorance, Intolerence, Greed, Ego, Arrogance, Lack of Humanity: Lack of Respect, Lack of Enpathy, Civility, Lack of Communication.<br />
 When communications break-down between potential adverseries and they Refuse to Sit Down and Neogotiate to Resolve Their Differnces; . . .:<br />
 The recipiants of these actions Feel Threatened!<br />
 Their defense against these Threats Is: REPRISAL!<br />
 The Consequence: &#8220;CHAOS&#8221;<br />
David Losey</p>
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		<title>By: 2sharedivine</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>2sharedivine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One (padded) room
All the &quot;Leaders&quot;
A big padlock for the room door
Food, Water, Blackets
No set date for release until a peaceful settlement is achieved 

Priceless

Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if it was that easy.  But, maybe it is.  It seems so easy for leaders to conscript or declare war.  How is this leadership?  These leaders need to lead away from death - toward life.  Instead of axe-grinding, solutions, real solutions, could be put in place if true will was there to do it.  What William McDonough alludes to in the moving video previously posted...is any thought being given to the seven generations...how to love all of the children, of all species, for all time?  There is too much division, but it starts with each and every one of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One (padded) room<br />
All the &#8220;Leaders&#8221;<br />
A big padlock for the room door<br />
Food, Water, Blackets<br />
No set date for release until a peaceful settlement is achieved </p>
<p>Priceless</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if it was that easy.  But, maybe it is.  It seems so easy for leaders to conscript or declare war.  How is this leadership?  These leaders need to lead away from death &#8211; toward life.  Instead of axe-grinding, solutions, real solutions, could be put in place if true will was there to do it.  What William McDonough alludes to in the moving video previously posted&#8230;is any thought being given to the seven generations&#8230;how to love all of the children, of all species, for all time?  There is too much division, but it starts with each and every one of us.</p>
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		<title>By: starkserious</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>starkserious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes everyone has positions...they can&#039;t help it because we are human. What I pay attention to is Cause/Effect. What&#039;s going to happen with the current strain of positions that are being reflected by the various leaders. The &quot;BLOW BACK&quot; a term coined by the State Dept many years ago refers that any position we take against a country whether it be military or social has a blow back effect. The current trend doesn&#039;t bode well for the world because none of the major leaders are presenting compelling visions to the world. Death, destruction, fear, intimidation, and hate aren&#039;t values that created anything worthwhile unless you enjoy those beliefs. Love is the answer but it requires great courage and taking a stand for the good of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes everyone has positions&#8230;they can&#8217;t help it because we are human. What I pay attention to is Cause/Effect. What&#8217;s going to happen with the current strain of positions that are being reflected by the various leaders. The &#8220;BLOW BACK&#8221; a term coined by the State Dept many years ago refers that any position we take against a country whether it be military or social has a blow back effect. The current trend doesn&#8217;t bode well for the world because none of the major leaders are presenting compelling visions to the world. Death, destruction, fear, intimidation, and hate aren&#8217;t values that created anything worthwhile unless you enjoy those beliefs. Love is the answer but it requires great courage and taking a stand for the good of all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that I agree with Kerry above.  When we break it down and look as far back in history as we can, we see that it is religion that has been forced upon us causing war and terror.  If you really decide to be honest with yourself, and with the facts that we have, you will see that this is the basis of all that is wrong in the world today.  Here in America, we have a clever disguise for using the same tactics as the terrorists throughout all of time: patriotism.  We have been told from the get-go that we must pledge allegiance to this country and support it&#039;s leaders without questions and in blind faith.  This is simply another version of the tactics used by religions since the dawn of time.  Because we are in America, where we founded this country on freedom of religion, and separation of church and state, the people in power had to find a way to perpetuate their power.  And so we are told that &quot;they&quot; know what&#039;s best for us, that &quot;they&quot; are working for our best interests, and that we should not question their authority.  I say bollocks (no i&#039;m not british, but i love that saying).  This country was founded by men with a vision for a brighter future for all of mankind.  But somewhere along the line, the people in power resorted back to their trusty old positions and screwed our government up for good.
I propose this: until we can effectively come up with an entirely new form of governmental process, this situation will only get worse.
The only way that we can stop war and terrorism is to stand up and leave all of our preconceptions behind.  We have to begin to question everything we&#039;ve been told for all of our lives.  This is hard to do, and for that reason, there will be many throughout the world who will do everything possible to stick to the old ways and keep us down in the hole we&#039;ve been in since the beginning.  If that happens, there is only one outcome: EXTINCTION.  You see, this is more than just a war.  This is more than just countries disagreeing.  This is the final war, the war that will determine our fate: evolution, or extinction.
Mr. Bush will never allow any major changes to take place in the government.  Niether will his successor, unless he/she has the strength and the vision to stand up and abolish our current form of government.
How can this be done?  What needs to change?  Who will lead us?
Well, first of all, i believe that the only reason there should even be a government is to protect us from force.  All other branches of the government should cease to exist.  With the exception of courts, police, and military, there should never be any other branches of government for fat old men to live off the production of the population.  We need to change the way we view the world, starting with ourselves.  Once we begin to see ourselves as the heroes we were all meant to be, we will see that there will be no reason for anyone else to lead us.  We can follow our own vision and the world will soon begin transform before our very eyes.

Anyways, thats just the way i see things.  Sorry for going on for so long, but this is a pretty touchy subject for me.  Never liked bush from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I agree with Kerry above.  When we break it down and look as far back in history as we can, we see that it is religion that has been forced upon us causing war and terror.  If you really decide to be honest with yourself, and with the facts that we have, you will see that this is the basis of all that is wrong in the world today.  Here in America, we have a clever disguise for using the same tactics as the terrorists throughout all of time: patriotism.  We have been told from the get-go that we must pledge allegiance to this country and support it&#8217;s leaders without questions and in blind faith.  This is simply another version of the tactics used by religions since the dawn of time.  Because we are in America, where we founded this country on freedom of religion, and separation of church and state, the people in power had to find a way to perpetuate their power.  And so we are told that &#8220;they&#8221; know what&#8217;s best for us, that &#8220;they&#8221; are working for our best interests, and that we should not question their authority.  I say bollocks (no i&#8217;m not british, but i love that saying).  This country was founded by men with a vision for a brighter future for all of mankind.  But somewhere along the line, the people in power resorted back to their trusty old positions and screwed our government up for good.<br />
I propose this: until we can effectively come up with an entirely new form of governmental process, this situation will only get worse.<br />
The only way that we can stop war and terrorism is to stand up and leave all of our preconceptions behind.  We have to begin to question everything we&#8217;ve been told for all of our lives.  This is hard to do, and for that reason, there will be many throughout the world who will do everything possible to stick to the old ways and keep us down in the hole we&#8217;ve been in since the beginning.  If that happens, there is only one outcome: EXTINCTION.  You see, this is more than just a war.  This is more than just countries disagreeing.  This is the final war, the war that will determine our fate: evolution, or extinction.<br />
Mr. Bush will never allow any major changes to take place in the government.  Niether will his successor, unless he/she has the strength and the vision to stand up and abolish our current form of government.<br />
How can this be done?  What needs to change?  Who will lead us?<br />
Well, first of all, i believe that the only reason there should even be a government is to protect us from force.  All other branches of the government should cease to exist.  With the exception of courts, police, and military, there should never be any other branches of government for fat old men to live off the production of the population.  We need to change the way we view the world, starting with ourselves.  Once we begin to see ourselves as the heroes we were all meant to be, we will see that there will be no reason for anyone else to lead us.  We can follow our own vision and the world will soon begin transform before our very eyes.</p>
<p>Anyways, thats just the way i see things.  Sorry for going on for so long, but this is a pretty touchy subject for me.  Never liked bush from the get-go.</p>
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		<title>By: Jude D.</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jude D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I think Bush was raised on &#039;show `em how big yer guns are, an` they&#039;ll back down&#039;-politics, which work as long as either &#039;yer guns&#039; are noticably bigger and/or the &quot;enemies&#039;&quot; &#039;cause&#039; is smaller than yours.

The &#039;guns&#039; of the &quot;terrorists&quot; are a mystery to all (and thus &#039;to be feared&#039;). And their cause (either what each man feels about his gods&#039; commandments, and/or heavy craziness) is much larger than our &#039;protection of other humans&#039; lives&#039; ... which is the only reason we&#039;re given, even though &#039;killing to protect them&#039; may seem like a step-backward.

What I&#039;ve been &#039;defending&#039; Bush against is accusation of lie-telling. I&#039;m like, &#039;HELLO PEOPLE; &quot;Politician,&quot; not &quot;history-teacher!&quot; He&#039;s not gonna tell you &quot;what happened,&quot; but only &quot;what he&#039;s paid to tell you!&quot;&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I think Bush was raised on &#8216;show `em how big yer guns are, an` they&#8217;ll back down&#8217;-politics, which work as long as either &#8216;yer guns&#8217; are noticably bigger and/or the &#8220;enemies&#8217;&#8221; &#8217;cause&#8217; is smaller than yours.</p>
<p>The &#8216;guns&#8217; of the &#8220;terrorists&#8221; are a mystery to all (and thus &#8216;to be feared&#8217;). And their cause (either what each man feels about his gods&#8217; commandments, and/or heavy craziness) is much larger than our &#8216;protection of other humans&#8217; lives&#8217; &#8230; which is the only reason we&#8217;re given, even though &#8216;killing to protect them&#8217; may seem like a step-backward.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve been &#8216;defending&#8217; Bush against is accusation of lie-telling. I&#8217;m like, &#8216;HELLO PEOPLE; &#8220;Politician,&#8221; not &#8220;history-teacher!&#8221; He&#8217;s not gonna tell you &#8220;what happened,&#8221; but only &#8220;what he&#8217;s paid to tell you!&#8221;&#8216;</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, what a pandoras box you have opened here Michael. What shows so clearly after reading your post and the many comments above, is that we are all clinging to our POSITIONS....as ill-informed as they may be. Ask yourself how your particular background, history, culture and socialistion has built these views in you. Do you question that which is fed to you day by day right now? 

I come from a large and amazing land far across the sea that once stood for understanding, giving your &#039;mate&#039; a fair go and openness built on the rewarding experience of multiculturalism. What I now see is a country whose leaders have followed others blindly... in the hope for power, for a larger piece of that global economic pie. Fair enough Australia has never been affected directly by terrorism, except for bombings in Bali, but there is much that has been lost....individual freedom, the informed voices of dissent. I see a nation of people in fear and when in fear people close ranks, play life safe. Understanding goes out the window, particularly, understanding of others who may not be the same as ourselves. What I resent most is that we are made to feel dumb by a majority of the leaders in the world today. I do know the history, I do know how much the US has contributed to the legacy of the very terrorism it proclaims to now be saving us all from. Stop the lies, people will respect that. 

I saw a real opportunity after 9/11 for the US to change the course of history, to have done what was not expected. To have done the honourable thing!! Not attack in retaliation (especially since there was no link to Iraq, but thats for another time), but to understand. To consider what this message was about, to hear the cry of help that this was. 

Please let go of the idea of sides, we are HUMAN FIRST. The enemy changes day to day, while people, mostly women and children, and hope is destroyed day by day too.

Peace and love
V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, what a pandoras box you have opened here Michael. What shows so clearly after reading your post and the many comments above, is that we are all clinging to our POSITIONS&#8230;.as ill-informed as they may be. Ask yourself how your particular background, history, culture and socialistion has built these views in you. Do you question that which is fed to you day by day right now? </p>
<p>I come from a large and amazing land far across the sea that once stood for understanding, giving your &#8216;mate&#8217; a fair go and openness built on the rewarding experience of multiculturalism. What I now see is a country whose leaders have followed others blindly&#8230; in the hope for power, for a larger piece of that global economic pie. Fair enough Australia has never been affected directly by terrorism, except for bombings in Bali, but there is much that has been lost&#8230;.individual freedom, the informed voices of dissent. I see a nation of people in fear and when in fear people close ranks, play life safe. Understanding goes out the window, particularly, understanding of others who may not be the same as ourselves. What I resent most is that we are made to feel dumb by a majority of the leaders in the world today. I do know the history, I do know how much the US has contributed to the legacy of the very terrorism it proclaims to now be saving us all from. Stop the lies, people will respect that. </p>
<p>I saw a real opportunity after 9/11 for the US to change the course of history, to have done what was not expected. To have done the honourable thing!! Not attack in retaliation (especially since there was no link to Iraq, but thats for another time), but to understand. To consider what this message was about, to hear the cry of help that this was. </p>
<p>Please let go of the idea of sides, we are HUMAN FIRST. The enemy changes day to day, while people, mostly women and children, and hope is destroyed day by day too.</p>
<p>Peace and love<br />
V</p>
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		<title>By: El Gato</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>El Gato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very sad that few have any clue at all about what is happening in the world.
The US has the most corrupt government on the face of the Earth, and yet, the war criminals Bush?Cheney, et. al. are merely puppets.
There is nothing visionary about empire building at the cost of thousands, probably miilions, of innocent lives.
Lies and deceit, murder, total lack of respect for the US Constitution and the rule of law epitomize the Bush regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very sad that few have any clue at all about what is happening in the world.<br />
The US has the most corrupt government on the face of the Earth, and yet, the war criminals Bush?Cheney, et. al. are merely puppets.<br />
There is nothing visionary about empire building at the cost of thousands, probably miilions, of innocent lives.<br />
Lies and deceit, murder, total lack of respect for the US Constitution and the rule of law epitomize the Bush regime.</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support our president Mr.Bush 100%. Terrorism has destroy many families all over the world, our country was one of the last one to be touch by terrorists.  Many of us forgot September 11, we as a free nation can&#039;t aloud terrorists to have any control.  We should continued the war until they are eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support our president Mr.Bush 100%. Terrorism has destroy many families all over the world, our country was one of the last one to be touch by terrorists.  Many of us forgot September 11, we as a free nation can&#8217;t aloud terrorists to have any control.  We should continued the war until they are eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems to me its easy for them to justify to themselfs hateing us if we treat them with violence and like they are sub humans. Its hard to kill somone who is truelly kind and treats you with respect. If we had helped the world with the money we spent on this war that bush almost single handedly pushed and got we would have a wall
of real pratection around us because the world would find it hard to hate us and not see us as a blessing. Being cocky and pretending we are so much more important than anyone else just because we were born were the power is will only get us killed and help get a real war against us started.

 Imagine if during the cold war we just desided we wouldnt talk to the russians. If Regan had not talked to them the berlan wall would still be there. What the hell these are men not kids not talking to them is stupid and childish. and so many peoples lifes are at stake maybe evan my own. Bush has acted like a bulley who is very arragent I wish he realised how many peoples blood is on his hands. I for one feel like a fool cause i voted for him the first time. I really thought he cared but when i saw the video of him laughing and jokeing right before he declared on tv that we were going to war I really didnt care if he died or not that level of coldness really is sad to me in a leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems to me its easy for them to justify to themselfs hateing us if we treat them with violence and like they are sub humans. Its hard to kill somone who is truelly kind and treats you with respect. If we had helped the world with the money we spent on this war that bush almost single handedly pushed and got we would have a wall<br />
of real pratection around us because the world would find it hard to hate us and not see us as a blessing. Being cocky and pretending we are so much more important than anyone else just because we were born were the power is will only get us killed and help get a real war against us started.</p>
<p> Imagine if during the cold war we just desided we wouldnt talk to the russians. If Regan had not talked to them the berlan wall would still be there. What the hell these are men not kids not talking to them is stupid and childish. and so many peoples lifes are at stake maybe evan my own. Bush has acted like a bulley who is very arragent I wish he realised how many peoples blood is on his hands. I for one feel like a fool cause i voted for him the first time. I really thought he cared but when i saw the video of him laughing and jokeing right before he declared on tv that we were going to war I really didnt care if he died or not that level of coldness really is sad to me in a leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=97#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not until we realized that thought has created, invented all the religions throughout the world and that no religion is going to solve our problems and that this energy behind all life is unknown and mysterious, that all our problems can be solved.

All we need to be content is food (and water or what have you), cloths, and shelter.  We are a country that beats to the drum of the big lie of organized religion and the idea of ambition and power, always seeking pleasure.  We must come to realize what we are and who we are, simply human beings living on this marvelous earth with all the wonderful creatures.  This idea of becoming something greater in the spiritual since is an illusion: You are already there.   

It is not nuclear power that is the problem; this is a clean and efficient source of energy.  The problem is each one of us and our unwillingness to put away our bizarre crutches and look at who we are.  Your consciousness is not separate from the rest of mankind...Look at what you are, and bring change there, and this will bring change to the rest of mankind.   You cannot â€œtryâ€ to bring about this change; it has nothing to do with effort.  

President Bush and all these politicians and this problematic government are never going to do anything but create more problems and, if they remain unchecked, they will eventually destroy mankind and this beautiful planet we call home.
 

Kerry Craig Walker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not until we realized that thought has created, invented all the religions throughout the world and that no religion is going to solve our problems and that this energy behind all life is unknown and mysterious, that all our problems can be solved.</p>
<p>All we need to be content is food (and water or what have you), cloths, and shelter.  We are a country that beats to the drum of the big lie of organized religion and the idea of ambition and power, always seeking pleasure.  We must come to realize what we are and who we are, simply human beings living on this marvelous earth with all the wonderful creatures.  This idea of becoming something greater in the spiritual since is an illusion: You are already there.   </p>
<p>It is not nuclear power that is the problem; this is a clean and efficient source of energy.  The problem is each one of us and our unwillingness to put away our bizarre crutches and look at who we are.  Your consciousness is not separate from the rest of mankind&#8230;Look at what you are, and bring change there, and this will bring change to the rest of mankind.   You cannot â€œtryâ€ to bring about this change; it has nothing to do with effort.  </p>
<p>President Bush and all these politicians and this problematic government are never going to do anything but create more problems and, if they remain unchecked, they will eventually destroy mankind and this beautiful planet we call home.</p>
<p>Kerry Craig Walker</p>
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