Comments on: Secular Jihadists? http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125 The official blog for the revolutionary VisionForce human technology begun by Michael Ivan Skye Thu, 12 May 2011 21:52:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Kamrul http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-59802 Kamrul Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:32:24 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-59802 Hi, I generally do not want to talk about religion. But recently I have developed or rather I would say I can see this strong relationship between these two things : One is the famous book called The Science Of Getting Rick and other is our Great Book : The Quran. In this book, The Science Of Getting Rich it is said and talked about the most Truthfulness, like what is the most Truthfulness in this Universe. Staying Healthy and Being Rick are the most Truthfulness in this World. And when you read and research the Quran you can find it that there are several instances in where it is talked about Truthfulness and searching for Truthfulness. What I can find is that : The most Truthfulness things a person can do in this World is to Stay Healthy and Be Rick. Hi,

I generally do not want to talk about religion. But recently I have developed or rather I would say I can see this strong relationship between these two things : One is the famous book called The Science Of Getting Rick and other is our Great Book : The Quran. In this book, The Science Of Getting Rich it is said and talked about the most Truthfulness, like what is the most Truthfulness in this Universe. Staying Healthy and Being Rick are the most Truthfulness in this World. And when you read and research the Quran you can find it that there are several instances in where it is talked about Truthfulness and searching for Truthfulness. What I can find is that : The most Truthfulness things a person can do in this World is to Stay Healthy and Be Rick.

]]> By: Rackaeta http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-54837 Rackaeta Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:40:42 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-54837 This religious we all know it's a means of seperation to the nation . My beleave we are still sleave mentally.we just of to be at peace with ourselves and practice love towards everyone Thanks This religious we all know it’s a means of seperation to the nation . My beleave we are still sleave mentally.we just of to be at peace with ourselves and practice love towards everyone
Thanks

]]> By: Francoais http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-54836 Francoais Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:51:23 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-54836 It is so good to at least have one Pastor standing up for what he believe. May God bless him. My fortune was to see the wrong commited by the so cald do-gooders in nature and in the live of a hole continent. Why are the worl so naive to not look at Africa and notice what they have done to it. If there is no disepline and respect you can come to any state in Africa and see were the world is heading to. It is so good to at least have one Pastor standing up for what he believe. May God bless him.
My fortune was to see the wrong commited by the so cald do-gooders in nature and in the live of a hole continent.
Why are the worl so naive to not look at Africa and notice what they have done to it. If there is no disepline and respect you can come to any state in Africa and see were the world is heading to.

]]> By: marina http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-53943 marina Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:13:57 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-53943 Kristina Honeycutt, Thank you for your comment and for putting in to words so many of my own thoughts! Bless you! I share similar experiences and have come to similar conclusions! There is such a difference between "acting loving", and BEING LOVE! Love that is being is the omnipresence of the divine in us and through us. It comes from our trust in and love for the divine and shows in a being - ness that has no need to "act". There is no need to control others with guilt, shame or fear. Our loving creator, or the wholeness of the universe is LOVE! Our free will falling in love with the AWESOMENESS and perfection that is "God" is a VERY different motivator than a religious system that often seems to be competitive, self-righteous and ego oriented. To truly give, you don't even realize that you gave, there is no piety in it, it has overflown from an endless supply that IS the DIVINE, who is WITHIN US! Many minds are changing, growing, expanding... and as we LIVE as a "right living army of God or the Divine" with joy and love for this amazing human experience our spirits are living, this ripples out and new thoughts change more and more perspectives! We can LOVE by accepting LOVE and seeing LOVE and let it OVERFLOW and RIPPLE OUT all around the world! Kristina Honeycutt, Thank you for your comment and for putting in to words so many of my own thoughts! Bless you! I share similar experiences and have come to similar conclusions! There is such a difference between “acting loving”, and BEING LOVE! Love that is being is the omnipresence of the divine in us and through us. It comes from our trust in and love for the divine and shows in a being – ness that has no need to “act”. There is no need to control others with guilt, shame or fear. Our loving creator, or the wholeness of the universe is LOVE! Our free will falling in love with the AWESOMENESS and perfection that is “God” is a VERY different motivator than a religious system that often seems to be competitive, self-righteous and ego oriented. To truly give, you don’t even realize that you gave, there is no piety in it, it has overflown from an endless supply that IS the DIVINE, who is WITHIN US!

Many minds are changing, growing, expanding… and as we LIVE as a “right living army of God or the Divine” with joy and love for this amazing human experience our spirits are living, this ripples out and new thoughts change more and more perspectives! We can LOVE by accepting LOVE and seeing LOVE and let it OVERFLOW and RIPPLE OUT all around the world!

]]> By: victory darwin http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39788 victory darwin Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:08:27 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-39788 Michael, once again you express it very simply and fairly. thanks for this great site. I'd love to get my 600 life coaches at BigLife.ws connected with you! ~Victory Michael, once again you express it very simply and fairly. thanks for this great site. I’d love to get my 600 life coaches at BigLife.ws connected with you!
~Victory

]]> By: charles fuchs http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-31702 charles fuchs Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:32:17 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-31702 Any organized religion is but mind control. The lunatics are definetly gaining ground in just another form of jihadism. That is one form of war that can never be won by anyone. At least not until one side or the other is completely anilated. How many times does the human race have to go through this insanity before people get the message? To me it is very simple; You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone! So what's the problem? I know,I know, a rhetorical question. How stupid of me. Any organized religion is but mind control. The lunatics are definetly gaining ground in just another form of jihadism. That is one form of war that can never be won by anyone. At least not until one side or the other is completely anilated. How many times does the human race have to go through this insanity before people get the message? To me it is very simple; You leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone! So what’s the problem? I know,I know, a rhetorical question. How stupid of me.

]]> By: L. http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-21131 L. Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:10:26 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-21131 Truth comes at a price, this man is to be respected. To agree or disagree is not the only point, to be the voice addressing the issue is worthy of respect. This prophectic voice is speaking to conscience as well as consciousness. Jihad - holy quest. Is Holiness welcome in America? Is Holiness welcome in the United States? Truth comes at a price, this man is to be respected. To agree or disagree is not the only point, to be the voice addressing the issue is worthy of respect.

This prophectic voice is speaking to conscience as well as consciousness.

Jihad – holy quest. Is Holiness welcome in America? Is Holiness welcome in the United States?

]]> By: Carrie http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-19580 Carrie Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:08:29 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-19580 The challenge I see in the argument is; are there common values? He was attacking homosexuality. There are those who feel based on their values, that it is wrong for the same sex to cocreate or love one another. When we are talking of coming together as a humanity we have to transcend the ego and see with the highest vision of Love. When one hears from those who profess to be ministers of God's Word that it is wrong and evil and they give scriptural reference to back their argument, it is hard to know that there is another perspective. Fortuantely there are Chrisitans like, Eusebia who are free thinking and reading the text from a higher vantage point. I think a paradigm shift is occuring and there will be a new Generation of Spirituality that is inclusive and based on a world the works for everyone. This is a time of shift and transition and we can't heal the wound until we know the sickness. We needed George Bush to wake us up from our sleep walking in the land of materiality and remind us of our humanity. The challenge I see in the argument is; are there common values? He was attacking homosexuality. There are those who feel based on their values, that it is wrong for the same sex to cocreate or love one another. When we are talking of coming together as a humanity we have to transcend the ego and see with the highest vision of Love. When one hears from those who profess to be ministers of God’s Word that it is wrong and evil and they give scriptural reference to back their argument, it is hard to know that there is another perspective. Fortuantely there are Chrisitans like, Eusebia who are free thinking and reading the text from a higher vantage point. I think a paradigm shift is occuring and there will be a new Generation of Spirituality that is inclusive and based on a world the works for everyone. This is a time of shift and transition and we can’t heal the wound until we know the sickness. We needed George Bush to wake us up from our sleep walking in the land of materiality and remind us of our humanity.

]]> By: rajiv http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-18032 rajiv Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:49:12 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-18032 the most pertinent issue paralysing us has been raised. all of us are acting same way , in some areas. thanks for bringing out and showing mirror. rajiv the most pertinent issue paralysing us has been raised.
all of us are acting same way , in some areas.

thanks for bringing out and showing mirror.

rajiv

]]> By: Aliya http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-16933 Aliya Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:04:36 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-16933 Righteousness, always makes me wonder why someone would think they are right and someone else is wrong. The view of our world is only a preception we believe to be true. So what is true? If we are all living under our own preceptions, how can there be an absolute truth.... If we choose to see a good and an evil world, it is because we have chosen to live in polarity. When people live in polarity, there is always an opposite viewpoint in operation. I feel many people in our current society are choosing to move beyond polarity, right and wrong, and create new systems based on harmony, love and compassion. When we know better, we can do better. We can not though demean and discredit those who as of yet have not learned better. The more energy we put to opposing something, the more energy we actually give to it. We must honor everyone. I stand for a persons right to have their own opinion or viewpoint. I stand for being the change in the world and pomoting sytems based on love, understanding, honor and compassion for every human. I stand for a world of truly empowered humans living in harmony! Righteousness, always makes me wonder why someone would think they are right and someone else is wrong. The view of our world is only a preception we believe to be true. So what is true? If we are all living under our own preceptions, how can there be an absolute truth….

If we choose to see a good and an evil world, it is because we have chosen to live in polarity. When people live in polarity, there is always an opposite viewpoint in operation. I feel many people in our current society are choosing to move beyond polarity, right and wrong, and create new systems based on harmony, love and compassion.

When we know better, we can do better. We can not though demean and discredit those who as of yet have not learned better. The more energy we put to opposing something, the more energy we actually give to it. We must honor everyone.

I stand for a persons right to have their own opinion or viewpoint. I stand for being the change in the world and pomoting sytems based on love, understanding, honor and compassion for every human. I stand for a world of truly empowered humans living in harmony!

]]> By: sujit ghosh http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-16565 sujit ghosh Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:28:25 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-16565 Religon when intitutionalised becomes a hunting gorund for those who crave for power to attain their personal gains rather than to disseminate peace and love - there may be exceptions but this over the years have been shown to be true for all religions Values to be cherished ought to be the same for all religions - somewhere down the line -zealots take over the right to preach religion their way to serve their interest when conflicts arise among followers of different religion Religious faith and beliefs ought to be value based than "position based " - weed out all "positions" that do not stand test of time as values to be cherished Once we do understand that there is no conflict between the universal values of all religions - we should be able to rise beyond such positioning as " fighting for one's beiliefs" and rebutt any nonsense that the zealots like to feed us with !! Religon when intitutionalised becomes a hunting gorund for those who crave for power to attain their personal gains rather than to disseminate peace and love – there may be exceptions but this over the years have been shown to be true for all religions
Values to be cherished ought to be the same for all religions – somewhere down the line -zealots take over the right to preach religion their way to serve their interest when conflicts arise among followers of different religion
Religious faith and beliefs ought to be value based than “position based ” – weed out all “positions” that do not stand test of time as values to be cherished
Once we do understand that there is no conflict between the universal values of all religions – we should be able to rise beyond such positioning as ” fighting for one’s beiliefs” and rebutt any nonsense that the zealots like to feed us with !!

]]> By: Raven http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-11613 Raven Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:42:20 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=125#comment-11613 I agree. Some people need to open thier eyes and see people for who they are, not what thier religion is. They need to see people for thier values, and how they put those values into action. Many stero type people by thier beliefs(I'm guilty of this at times). When one does this, they are barring themselves from knowing some really wonderful individuals who may actually believe more along what you do, than one would think. I perosnally was raised Baptist, then converted to Wicca, and as of recently, have converted(do we get frequent flier miles, I wonder?) to Ayn Rand's Objectivist Philosophy. I converted because it was what I believed all along. I know many Christians who are good Christians, and some who one would wonder how they could justify calling themselves Christian. I also know many Wiccans who follow the Rede, and those, well, who are like those Christians, who you wonder where thier mind goes when they read about their 'beliefs". I find that, it's often those who hold on strongly to thier beliefs, like a shield, who are the most lost of all. Why do you need to defend your beliefs, when in reality, they are not under attack. Like the 'Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holiday's" issue. Personally, I know there are many, many religions with holiday's in December. Why do people really care so much as to throw thier beliefs at people and be nasty about it, when it is first and foremost, a holiday of peace, love, and joy. A time of year to be merry and be thankful for one's blessings. So, why should they care if it's "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holiday's"? There are greater injustices going on in the world, than for one to waste one's time on such a insignifigant thing as that. Which is why, I say, we should value eachother for thier values, and what they do, not what they necisarrily believe. I agree. Some people need to open thier eyes and see people for who they are, not what thier religion is. They need to see people for thier values, and how they put those values into action. Many stero type people by thier beliefs(I’m guilty of this at times). When one does this, they are barring themselves from knowing some really wonderful individuals who may actually believe more along what you do, than one would think.
I perosnally was raised Baptist, then converted to Wicca, and as of recently, have converted(do we get frequent flier miles, I wonder?) to Ayn Rand’s Objectivist Philosophy. I converted because it was what I believed all along.
I know many Christians who are good Christians, and some who one would wonder how they could justify calling themselves Christian. I also know many Wiccans who follow the Rede, and those, well, who are like those Christians, who you wonder where thier mind goes when they read about their ‘beliefs”.
I find that, it’s often those who hold on strongly to thier beliefs, like a shield, who are the most lost of all. Why do you need to defend your beliefs, when in reality, they are not under attack. Like the ‘Merry Christmas” or “Happy Holiday’s” issue. Personally, I know there are many, many religions with holiday’s in December. Why do people really care so much as to throw thier beliefs at people and be nasty about it, when it is first and foremost, a holiday of peace, love, and joy. A time of year to be merry and be thankful for one’s blessings. So, why should they care if it’s “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Holiday’s”? There are greater injustices going on in the world, than for one to waste one’s time on such a insignifigant thing as that.
Which is why, I say, we should value eachother for thier values, and what they do, not what they necisarrily believe.

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