Comments on: Iran’s Nuclear Stand http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119 The official blog for the revolutionary VisionForce human technology begun by Michael Ivan Skye Thu, 12 May 2011 21:52:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Mike McCafferty http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-55120 Mike McCafferty Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:06:32 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-55120 Most leaders worry about there own political position. They are career politicials, worrying about keeping a position. We need leaders who see a vision of a new global society. Leaders who do not need a job. Most leaders worry about there own political position. They are career politicials, worrying about keeping a position. We need leaders who see a vision of a new global society. Leaders who do not need a job.

]]> By: James Dudleson http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-54156 James Dudleson Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:31:51 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-54156 Dear Michael, I could not agree with you more. As we witness all around the change that is taking place on every level of what we have believed to be our lives, our world, our universe, it is very obvious that what is beginning to evolve is a much higher state of awareness, an awakening to our true selves. As you mentioned our need as a global family to shift from the positional to the visionary, we who strive to make this shift in consciousness must believe that our efforts will not be in vain though the media would beg to differ. We are all witnessing the dying of a very old paradigm. The death rattle can clearly be heard in the throat of the old man, and if we can quiet our minds enough, we can hear the cry of the new man birthing and coming to be. We must continue to strive to become who we truely are, the Light of the world if there is to be a New Heaven and a New Earth. We must break free from belief systems that no longer suffice. We, as the human race, must awaken to the connectedness and oneness of ALL LIFE , that we are all evolving at this time in history into higher more vibrational beings of energy and in the end will be Pure Consciousness of Love and Light!!! Peace and Blessings. Dear Michael, I could not agree with you more. As we witness all around the change that is taking place on every level of what we have believed to be our lives, our world, our universe, it is very obvious that what is beginning to evolve is a much higher state of awareness, an awakening to our true selves. As you mentioned our need as a global family to shift from the positional to the visionary, we who strive to make this shift in consciousness must believe that our efforts will not be in vain though the media would beg to differ. We are all witnessing the dying of a very old paradigm. The death rattle can clearly be heard in the throat of the old man, and if we can quiet our minds enough, we can hear the cry of the new man birthing and coming to be. We must continue to strive to become who we truely are, the Light of the world if there is to be a New Heaven and a New Earth. We must break free from belief systems that no longer suffice. We, as the human race, must awaken to the connectedness and oneness of ALL LIFE , that we are all evolving at this time in history into higher more vibrational beings of energy and in the end will be Pure Consciousness of Love and Light!!! Peace and Blessings.

]]> By: el_es_art http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-52013 el_es_art Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:31:21 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-52013 vision-force is helping me incredibly to develop! The more I give up position, the more I see each approach is explaining the other. So I do not blame the partial vision...the partiallity of it makes me discover my own partiallity, so it is the cooperation that leads to insight! vision-force is helping me incredibly to develop!
The more I give up position, the more I see each approach is explaining the other. So I do not blame the partial vision…the partiallity of it makes me discover my own partiallity, so it is the cooperation that leads to insight!

]]> By: Anne Alferos http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-48496 Anne Alferos Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:12:50 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-48496 I like your thinking Michael, I consider myself a Visionary thinker and at times one may think that this would be some kind of absolute vision. I think we can also make the mistake of turning our vision into a dictate that we insist others need to follow. The real beauty in visionary thinking is with the understanding that our vision is partial. We must be receptive to the voice and vision of others. So compromise takes on a slightly different meaning, when we recognize the place where others are speaking, we recognize something that individual must say that no one else can. Thank you - for all that you do, all that you stand for! I like your thinking Michael, I consider myself a Visionary thinker and at times one may think that this would be some kind of absolute vision. I think we can also make the mistake of turning our vision into a dictate that we insist others need to follow. The real beauty in visionary thinking is with the understanding that our vision is partial. We must be receptive to the voice and vision of others. So compromise takes on a slightly different meaning, when we recognize the place where others are speaking, we recognize something that individual must say that no one else can.
Thank you – for all that you do, all that you stand for!

]]> By: John Anderson http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-41045 John Anderson Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:57:56 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-41045 Love the sentiments...re not being positional. That is how I live my life. I personally think that the Iranian government developing nuclear weapons is a RACKET big time thought as he has publically and on the record stated his intention to blow Israel of the face of the earth. Watch how your phrasing things my freind or you will turn a lot of allies into enemies. Love the sentiments…re not being positional. That is how I live my life.

I personally think that the Iranian government developing nuclear weapons is a RACKET big time thought as he has publically and on the record stated his intention to blow Israel of the face of the earth.

Watch how your phrasing things my freind or you will turn a lot of allies into enemies.

]]> By: Kristen Westlake http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-40101 Kristen Westlake Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:48:15 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-40101 In a world where people take on "socially reinforced baggage" in order to exist, it is no wonder that mind sets come from position versus vision. Advertising tells people what they NEED and the news tells us what we THINK. Position views all news, all needs, all aspects of self as coming from an outside source - even God. It's merely a perception, an illusion of mind set that creates our reality. However, if we wake up and turn off the news, stop listening to the subliminal messages of advertisements, and see ourselves reflected (mirrored) in each person that evokes a response in us, we may start to see as Sean said in comment #4 and I quote him, "there really is no ‘out there’ the whole deal is an inner game:)". Again, our perception is our reality - Kristen Westlake <a href="http://www.wisconsinphotos.com" rel="nofollow">Fine Art Nature Photography</a> In a world where people take on “socially reinforced baggage” in order to exist, it is no wonder that mind sets come from position versus vision. Advertising tells people what they NEED and the news tells us what we THINK. Position views all news, all needs, all aspects of self as coming from an outside source – even God.
It’s merely a perception, an illusion of mind set that creates our reality.
However, if we wake up and turn off the news, stop listening to the subliminal messages of advertisements, and see ourselves reflected (mirrored) in each person that evokes a response in us, we may start to see as Sean said in comment #4 and I quote him, “there really is no ‘out there’ the whole deal is an inner game:)”.

Again, our perception is our reality –
Kristen Westlake
Fine Art Nature Photography

]]> By: Cliff Adams http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-37721 Cliff Adams Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:03:41 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-37721 <a> If we are interested in a context change, or state change, then we must continually examine our context, and our current state. For instance, we could examine this statement of Einstein's, which from where I sit appears to have more the force of cliche than of logic. With all deference to Mr. Einstein, the solution of a problem MUST occur in the same context ("state of consciousness" in this case) that the problem is created in. By definition. The solution to the problem what is 2 + 2 does not occur in some "higher" mathematics, in fact in some higher mathematics the question would simply be irrelevant. Maybe that's what Einstein meant. Perhaps we need to look at that again, and say that if problems are intractable (like, how do we get along on earth without killing each other) then we need to simply create new or bigger problems, to keep us busy, or make life more satisfying. We could also ask, are the issues we are dealing with today really problems. Looking at mathematics again, a solution to a problem is defined by the person who created the problem in the first place. The problem of adding 2+2 or the problem of squaring the circle are not problems in and of themselves, they are only problems to the person who defines them. Squares and circles themselves don't have problems, they are doing just fine, and don't give a fig if they are comensurate. A Non-Euclidean mathematical proposition is not a solution to any problem in Euclidean geometry. The "solution" to a problem can, by definition only be defined by the person who proposes the problem. And it is only a problem to that person, and anyone he or she can persuade to be interested in it. Perhaps the, eh, problem is that we are sloppy in the use of the word problem. People are born, and people die, and the world keeps rotating on it's axis. What's the problem? On the other hand, if we were to ask, how can we cause a shift in the quality and the average length of life on earth, then we are not really setting out to solve a problem, but rather looking for new possibilities that don't yet exist. Or, if I would try take into account the spirit of the Einstein quote, we could simply start asking questions about what's important to us in different language than the language of problem/solution. That is, we can stop trying to solve problems, and start looking for inspiration to create new possibilities.

If we are interested in a context change, or state change, then we must continually examine our context, and our current state. For instance, we could examine this statement of Einstein’s, which from where I sit appears to have more the force of cliche than of logic. With all deference to Mr. Einstein, the solution of a problem MUST occur in the same context (“state of consciousness” in this case) that the problem is created in. By definition. The solution to the problem what is 2 + 2 does not occur in some “higher” mathematics, in fact in some higher mathematics the question would simply be irrelevant. Maybe that’s what Einstein meant.

Perhaps we need to look at that again, and say that if problems are intractable (like, how do we get along on earth without killing each other) then we need to simply create new or bigger problems, to keep us busy, or make life more satisfying.

We could also ask, are the issues we are dealing with today really problems. Looking at mathematics again, a solution to a problem is defined by the person who created the problem in the first place. The problem of adding 2+2 or the problem of squaring the circle are not problems in and of themselves, they are only problems to the person who defines them. Squares and circles themselves don’t have problems, they are doing just fine, and don’t give a fig if they are comensurate. A Non-Euclidean mathematical proposition is not a solution to any problem in Euclidean geometry.

The “solution” to a problem can, by definition only be defined by the person who proposes the problem. And it is only a problem to that person, and anyone he or she can persuade to be interested in it.

Perhaps the, eh, problem is that we are sloppy in the use of the word problem.

People are born, and people die, and the world keeps rotating on it’s axis. What’s the problem? On the other hand, if we were to ask, how can we cause a shift in the quality and the average length of life on earth, then we are not really setting out to solve a problem, but rather looking for new possibilities that don’t yet exist.

Or, if I would try take into account the spirit of the Einstein quote, we could simply start asking questions about what’s important to us in different language than the language of problem/solution. That is, we can stop trying to solve problems, and start looking for inspiration to create new possibilities.

]]> By: Joseph Nowacki http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-29356 Joseph Nowacki Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:48:28 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-29356 When I signed up for this, some how I got the impression it was inspired by objectivism (the philosophy of Ayn Rand). The more I read the more it seems like just rambling. Sometimes it leans toward communism sometimes anarchy. You can't have it all. Freedom and reason give us peace. Controls and tempering allow us to see reason and in the long run have freedom. Freedom isn't just doing what a person wants. If another person is getting hurt, or oppressed, their freedoms are forfeit, but freedom is for everyone. When I signed up for this, some how I got the impression it was inspired by objectivism (the philosophy of Ayn Rand). The more I read the more it seems like just rambling. Sometimes it leans toward communism sometimes anarchy. You can’t have it all. Freedom and reason give us peace. Controls and tempering allow us to see reason and in the long run have freedom. Freedom isn’t just doing what a person wants. If another person is getting hurt, or oppressed, their freedoms are forfeit, but freedom is for everyone.

]]> By: Yvonne Turner http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-22394 Yvonne Turner Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:34:44 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-22394 I find your writing the most interesting, I do so agree. Everyday I spend my time in the morning for 2 hours sending out messages to the greatness of all, I do feel there is something that is out there, everywhere and within all of us. I have felt over time to have reached a higher degree of attainment of realizing the consiosness of man. I feel my thoughts reflect upon what surrounds me, what I think will be sent out, what I do will be sent out. After all we all bounce off of each other, what one feels or has an experience in a foreign country, we all fee, we all have vibrational input. It is soo simple to know this, but if only we could live it in a way to transport beautiful, peaceful healing thoughts and vibrations to heal our planet, people and create a beautiful future for our children...they hold the future and only watch the outcome of it all each and every day....peace and lovelight, Yvonne/lakotawolf I find your writing the most interesting, I do so agree. Everyday I spend my time in the morning for 2 hours sending out messages to the greatness of all, I do feel there is something that is out there, everywhere and within all of us. I have felt over time to have reached a higher degree of attainment of realizing the consiosness of man. I feel my thoughts reflect upon what surrounds me, what I think will be sent out, what I do will be sent out. After all we all bounce off of each other, what one feels or has an experience in a foreign country, we all fee, we all have vibrational input. It is soo simple to know this, but if only we could live it in a way to transport beautiful, peaceful healing thoughts and vibrations to heal our planet, people and create a beautiful future for our children…they hold the future and only watch the outcome of it all each and every day….peace and lovelight, Yvonne/lakotawolf

]]> By: Marco Polo http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19756 Marco Polo Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:49:44 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19756 I didn't really understand what Michael wrote: what did that have to do with the Iran Prez's words? But Isoke's words I could understand. I didn’t really understand what Michael wrote: what did that have to do with the Iran Prez’s words? But Isoke’s words I could understand.

]]> By: Bob http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19672 Bob Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:43:54 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19672 The question I would ask is why does USA "look down" on other countries particularly in the Arab world. Also what has this to do with positionary thinking versus visionary thinking? USA like to take the moral high ground - as seen from the comments by them on Iran's nuclear program. I wonder if it ever occurs to USA people that they are the only nation to have used a nuclear weapon against civilian targets. How can they take the moral high ground with such blood on their hands? The question I would ask is why does USA “look down” on other countries particularly in the Arab world.

Also what has this to do with positionary thinking versus visionary thinking?

USA like to take the moral high ground – as seen from the comments by them on Iran’s nuclear program. I wonder if it ever occurs to USA people that they are the only nation to have used a nuclear weapon against civilian targets. How can they take the moral high ground with such blood on their hands?

]]> By: yadid http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19399 yadid Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:20:43 +0000 http://www.visionforce.com/blog/?p=119#comment-19399 isoke, your comment moved me to tears. Power to you. Peace isoke, your comment moved me to tears. Power to you.
Peace

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